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The Times Tech Podcast

Fifty Years’ Seth Bannon: “Passing the Mr. Burns test”

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2020

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Seth Bannon, founder of venture capital firm Fifty Years, to talk about targeting the truly big problems (1:00), why it took 18 months to raise $5m (2:40), targeting lab-grown meat (6:30), getting the met lobby on their side (8:30), backing birth control (12:00), taking left-field approaches to climate (13:50), taking advantage of the Silicon Valley cultural crisis (17:15), the need for big winners (21:00), the slow death of the Fridman doctrine (26:00), how he started out as a young idealist (28:30), (33:30), when he faked it but didn’t make it (38:20), confessing his sins (41:05), and his worst day of work (42:15). 

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0:00.0

Yeah, technology.

0:03.0

What is it all about?

0:04.0

We have something we call the Mr. Burns test.

0:06.0

So Mr. Burns is this character on The Simpsons.

0:09.0

He's basically the prototype of a greedy industrial capitalist.

0:12.0

Doesn't care about anyone but himself.

0:13.0

We want to see companies that have a path to making a product that Mr. Burns would choose, right?

0:20.0

Because it's the cheapest, highest quality, most convenient, and oh, by the way, it's sustainable.

0:24.6

Because this is really the only way you can pull the lever of capitalism to solve these big problems really quickly.

0:34.6

Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley, your weekly dispatch behind the scenes and inside the minds of the top people in tech. I am your host, Danny Fortson. Thank you for tuning in. We have got yet another good one for you today. As you may have guessed, I am not in Davos this week.

0:55.4

Obviously, my invite must have been lost in the post.

0:58.5

It's tragic, really.

0:59.8

So instead of traipsing around the frozen alpine conditions,

1:04.6

I chose to walk up a very steep hill in San Francisco instead.

1:10.2

To the headquarters of 50 years, which is a venture capital firm with a difference

1:14.3

in that they are focused on climate change and other very big kind of global problems.

1:21.2

So what they're not looking for is the next social media app or enterprise software startup.

1:27.4

That's not really their thing.

1:29.3

And I had met the co-founder, or rather spoke with the co-founder, Seth Bannon,

1:33.3

on a story I wrote a couple months ago about what Silicon Valley was,

1:38.3

or rather what it was not doing around climate change.

1:41.3

I enjoyed the conversation, so I thought we should just do it

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