Well, hello, everyone. I'm James Dobson, and I'm pleased that you've chosen to join us today

for what I believe is going to be a very interesting radio program. It will feature a guest

named Donna Fisher, whom we have known and loved for many years,

and her husband is also here, although she's going to do most of the talking.

We are going to be talking about a book that she has written.

She just finished it a short time ago.

The title of it is Change of Pace, and the subtitle is 50 years of shepherding God's sheep with love and power.

And there's so much we have to talk about, Donna, let's get going, shall we?

Oh, it's a privilege to be here, Dr. Dobson. I've known you for so many years.

Then why don't you call me Jim?

Okay. I would love to call you Jim. I never thought I'd sit on the other side of the table

and have you interview me. I feel so honored.

Well, that's what you get for writing such an interesting book.

Well, for you to say it's interesting, you're excited me.

This is a book on your life.

It's autobiographical.

It is.

And you're talking about experiences from your childhood on.

Yes.

And it's not going to be easy for you because it's never easy to talk about yourself on a time

like this and with these circumstances.

So enjoy what you're doing.

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