Welcome back to Out of this World. I'm Jamie Hanshaw and I have a super special guest today, Isaac Wisehaap, who's going to be joining us at our live event in Las Vegas in a couple weeks. It's going to be so fun. And today we're going to be talking about his books, his awesome books, aliens, UFOs, and the Occult Use Your Illusion, Part 1 and 2.

I don't know if we're going to get into all of this today.

It's going to probably need a sequel because we have so much to talk about.

So what these books are about is something that I've been talking about for a long time.

The connection between demons, aliens, UFOs, the occults, and sex magic. And are we causing the alien invasion to occur by our thoughts, by our manifestations, by our sex. So this is something that is going to get

really deep and hairy. The name I chose for the show is 50 shades of grays. Because it seems

that it's been going on since ancient alien times is the connection between procreation, creation, and relationships between otherworldly entities and human beings.

How are you today?

Man, thanks for having me back on.

I don't know if I'm a special guest, but I'm happy to be a guest in your show again.

And this is, this is probably, I mean, if you forced me to pick one, one theory, I know you put this on YouTube, so I'll be careful with some of the terms I use.

If there's one theory I had to pick out of all the theories, I think aliens and the connection to spirituality is the one that resonates the most for me. So I'm very excited to try to unpack some

of this, which I mean, these are huge topics, of course.

But yeah, we'll definitely have to link back up for part two as soon as possible.

Yeah, I actually put this into about seven different eras or epochs.

And we're going to talk about some of the personalities and moments in history where the aliens

are making contact. And you said something in your book that was really poignant. You said

Lucifer was the first E.T. Yeah, the first fallen angel. And when you unpack a lot of the occult doctrines and theories all roads seem to

lead to lucifer and different different sort of descriptions as this being of light as this

archetype of wisdom which you know is gnnosticism and ties into Gnostic

thinking which seems to be the backbone of a lot of these occult sort of

religions and philosophies but I it's weird because when I started this journey I

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