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THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

Fiasco for Trump as Judge Threatens Contempt amid New Warning in Polls

THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

The New Republic

News, Politics

4.4 • 800 Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump’s illegal deportations are running into more trouble. A federal judge just declared there’s probable cause to find the administration in criminal contempt over the removal of Venezuelans to El Salvador. Meanwhile, a Democratic Senator went to El Salvador to check on Kilmar Abrego Garcia and got a shocking response. And a new polling analysis has a warning for Trump: On immigration, he’s significantly weaker than he appears. We think all this has the makings of a fiasco for Trump: He is heading toward defying the courts on this issue, in a way that could provoke a large backlash. We talked to New Republic staff writer Melissa Gira Grant, author of a good piece on Trump’s use of spectacle on immigration. She deciphers the new ruling, why it’s pushing us toward a crisis, and how Democrats can try to make it all backfire on Trump.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:31.5

I'm your host, Greg Sargent. Donald Trump's illegal deportations are running into more trouble.

0:45.7

A federal judge just gave him a serious brushback.

0:48.9

He declared there's probable cause to find the administration in criminal contempt of court

0:53.5

over their removal of dozens of

0:55.5

Venezuelans to the maximum security prison in El Salvador. Meanwhile, a Democratic senator went to

1:01.5

El Salvador to check on Kilmar-Abrego-Garcia, who was also sent to this prison illegally by

1:06.6

Trump, and the senator got a shocking answer. On top of all that, a good new polling analysis

1:12.1

shows that on immigration, Trump actually isn't on firm ground. We're going to unravel all of this

1:18.4

with New Republic staff writer Melissa Giro Grant, who has a piece arguing that for the Trump

1:22.8

administration, the sadism driving the deportations is the point. Thanks for coming on, Melissa.

1:28.5

Thanks, Greg.

1:30.2

So this new ruling comes in response to the Trump administration's removals of dozens

1:35.0

of Venezuelans pursuant to the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a grotesque absurdity in and of itself.

1:42.7

Judge Bowsberg excoriated the administration for defying

1:46.4

an earlier ruling against them by continuing to deport the Venezuelans in defiance of a court order,

1:52.7

and he threatened to hold contempt proceedings if officials don't give these people a chance to

1:58.4

defend themselves in court. Melissa, what did we see here exactly?

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