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FF 516: Is MAHA Going to Outlast MAGA?

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Politics, Comedy, News, Business

4.8676 Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Finding Freedom on the Lions of Liberty Podcast Network, host John Odermatt dives into the future of the conservative movement, asking whether "Make America Great Again" (MAGA) or "Make America Healthy Again" (MAHA) will define the next era. John explores the wins, losses, and promises of both movements, reflecting on the shifting priorities within American politics and culture. He discusses the grassroots rise of MAHA, the evolving MAGA coalition, and the growing distrust of big institutions. The episode also covers the impact of health freedom, the role of RFK Jr., and the intersection of wellness trends with political identity. John shares personal insights, market shifts, and the challenges facing both movements. Ultimately, he argues that health is the new battleground for freedom and that the side able to embrace MAHA will shape the future. Tune in for a thought-provoking analysis of where America is headed. Chapters:00:00 – Introduction & Episode Overview03:53 – Show Theme: MAGA vs. MAHA04:53 – Sponsor: Fox and Sons Coffee05:21 – MAGA Movement: Promises & Performance11:01 – MAHA Movement: Origins & Growth14:08 – Wins & Losses: MAGA and MAHA Compared16:01 – Trump’s Campaign Promises: Grading the Results27:31 – Vaccine Transparency & Health Policy40:41 – Political Mobilization & Market Trends45:41 – Food System Reform & Wellness Industry50:03 – The Future: Health, Freedom, and Political Change55:35 – Final Thoughts & Community Shoutouts Subscribe to John’s Finding Freedom Show solo feed to listen to “Pursuit of Freedom,” which is a new podcast series where John shares the highs and lows of his entrepreneurial journey. Listen and Subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Follow the Lions of Liberty: Twitter - https://x.com/LionsofLiberty Rumble - https://rumble.com/c/LionsofLiberty YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/lionsofliberty Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/lionsofliberty/ Telegram - https://t.me/lionsofliberty Get access to all of our bonus audio content, livestreams, behind-the-scenes segments and more for as little as $5 per month by joining the Lions of Liberty Pride on Patreon OR support us on Locals! Check out our merchandise at the Lions of Liberty Store for all of our awesome t-shirts, mugs and hats! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, welcome to another episode of Finding Freedom right here on the Lions of Liberty Podcast Network.

0:06.4

Today, we're going to be talking about the future of the conservative movement, the future of maybe the Republican Party, but more importantly, drilling down into discovering, does MAGA make America great again or maha make america healthy again have more

0:26.1

legs going forward we'll look at wins losses promises kept things like that and really see

0:33.7

what's the future here is the future maga or is the future maha? Hey, what's up, everybody, welcome back to another episode of Finding Freedom here on the Lions of Liberty Podcast Network. I am your host, John Otermat, happy to be here with you today. And if you can tell by my voice, I do have a little bit of a cold, I guess they say, under the umbrella of colds, although it's been kind of a very weird

1:30.9

experience here over the past couple days.

1:34.0

Went from, well, today's Monday.

1:36.8

I'm recording this late Monday because of this cold.

1:39.7

And my guests, unfortunately, that I was going to record with on Friday, had to cancel because they were

1:45.6

very sick the past week and just were unable to do it. But we will get that interview in,

1:51.1

hopefully later this week. But yeah, so a cold hit me on, I guess, Friday, I started feeling the

1:59.4

tickle in my throat, of course.

2:02.2

You know, I believe in supplementation.

2:04.3

I believe in using things like vitamin D and NAC and Cucerton and a whole array of health supplements.

2:16.0

When I do get that tickle, zinc, when I do get that tickle in my throat.

2:22.0

So I started taking everything. And I already do obviously have a very, I guess, I don't know,

2:28.8

not very extensive. I know people would take a lot more supplements than I do. But I take my gut

2:32.7

health supplements. I take my gut health supplements.

2:35.6

I take my detox supplements.

2:42.3

So my immune system in itself is, I think, very, very well functioning, very healthy.

2:47.7

So Friday, I get the tickle on the throat.

2:53.1

Saturday, you know, things seem like they're pretty normal.

2:54.7

I think maybe I'm beating this.

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