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Boom! Lawyered

Fetuses Don't Belong in Jail

Boom! Lawyered

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4.8616 Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

A Florida attorney is trying to free his client from jail. His client? A fetus. In a new episode of Boom! Lawyered, Jess and Imani break down a case that could open the floodgates for "fetal personhood"—but, it's a little more complicated than that. Expert Repro Journalism That Inspires.  Episodes like this take time, research, and a commitment to the truth. If Boom! Lawyered helps you understand what’s at stake in our courts, chip in to keep our fearless legal analysis alive. Become a member today.   B*itch, Listen now has its own dedicated feed on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever else you get your podcasts. If you already subscribe to Boom! Lawyered, sign up for B*tch, Listen so you won't miss it.

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0:00.0

Hello, fellow law nerds. Welcome to another episode of Boom Lawyer, a Rewire News Group podcast hosted by the legal journalism team, half of which is going to see Beyonce in France.

0:23.4

I'm ReWire Newsgroup's editor at large, Imani Gandy.

0:27.0

And I'm Jess Piclo, Rewire Newsgroup's executive editor

0:30.0

and the one who is not seeing Beyonce in France.

0:33.6

It's okay.

0:35.1

Rewire News Group is the one and only home for expert repro journalism that inspires you to support your friends who are seeing Beyonce in France.

0:44.5

And the Boom Lawyered podcast is part of that mission.

0:47.6

So a big thanks to our subscribers and a welcome to our new listeners and viewers.

0:52.9

So y'all, today is a day. We are going to be talking about an attorney in Florida who's making claims that his client, a fetus, by the way, his client's a fetus, is being illegally detained in prison and should be released. Let me say that again. He's making claims

1:13.4

that his client, who is a fetus, is being illegally detained in prison and should be released.

1:19.2

His client's mother, Natalia Harrell, is in prison on murder charges. And so first things first,

1:27.1

Amani, this Florida attorney is arguing that innocent

1:30.9

fetuses don't belong in jail. This is going to be a complicated one because there are a lot of

1:37.1

feelings on either side of this issue. And so I'm hoping to change some hearts and minds with this

1:42.2

episode. That's my goal. But first,

1:49.2

let's talk about what's going on here. Okay. Okay. So in July of last year, Natalia Harel went to a bar with a friend. Her friend's name was Gladys Borsela. At the end of the night,

1:54.4

the pair ended up in an Uber where they got into an argument. Natalia pulled out a gun and shot and killed Gladys. Natalia was six weeks

2:05.0

pregnant at the time. First of all, yikes? Yeah, it's already yikes. What an Uber. Yeah. What a night out.

2:12.9

Like, that'd be like you and me going out to Red Rocks and in the eggs, I just shoot you in the cab. Can you imagine coming back from Brandy Carlisle and like, pew, pew, pew. I don't know why I went pew, pew, pew. That's terrible. I'm very sorry. This is a serious case. We need none of that, Jessica. Apologies. Okay. We need a little. So Natalia has been held without bond since July. And now that she's

2:36.4

eight months pregnant, her attorney is arguing that the jail staff has endangered the fetus by

2:41.6

refusing to provide proper prenatal care and putting her in dangerous situations. So here's a

2:47.6

couple of examples of what she's been subject to. Staff left her in a van with no air

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