Hey, it's so fun to be here with Lisa Bevere, also known as my wife. Honey, I just love

doing conversations with you because here's the reason when I preach I'm looking at

audiences, when I do conversations I'm looking at you, baby. And so, well, thank you. Thank

you, done. And hopefully you enjoy looking at me. But anyway, what if I don't? Like, what

am I supposed to say right now? I don't know. I need to pray harder. That's what we're

talking about. We're talking about right now. Wow, it's our segue today. That's right.

But anyway, James 5, 16 and 17. I'm going to read this one out of the new living

translation. The earnest prayer of a righteous person has great power and produces

wonderful results. Do you remember Lisa? And this is this is do you remember the woman

when we were youth pastors way back in that would be my back 80s. This young lady, she was

in her 20s. She was dedicated to Satan. She was in Satanism and she wanted out desperately

and she was going to several churches and the elders were praying for her and she came

to your my house because she had started coming to you. I know. I don't know. But I remember

we prayed and boy, did we pray fervently and we spoke to those demonic spirits in her

life and commanded them to come out. And I remember when she looked up her face was just

glowing and she said, I'm free. And then she looked at us and said, when the elders and

those other churches prayed, they prayed very passively, very quietly. And she said,

I would hear the demons inside of me laughing at them. She said, when you two prayed, they

came out. We don't have a stronger relationship with God than those elders do. They're just

as much children of God as you and I are. The difference was we did with the word of God

says. We spoke to those demon spirits fervently and commanded them with authority to leave.

And I know there are people that are listening to us right now, Lisa. They've got situations

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