Ferris Jabr: Re-rooting science in the aliveness of the Earth
Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration
Kaméa Chayne
4.8 • 694 Ratings
🗓️ 21 January 2025
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
How do the biological life forms of the Amazon rainforest — from pollen grains, fungal spores, to microbes — play active roles in their regional water cycle? How might we connect chemistry, biology, physics, ecology, and other less quantifiable measures of aliveness to look at our planetary crises in much more holistic ways? And if the Earth's “systems” were ever-emergent and everchanging, then how do we know what to orient healing and restoring balance towards?
In this episode, kaméa is joined by Ferris Jabr, who shares his wealth of ecological knowledge while drawing upon his book, Becoming Earth: How Our Planet Came to Life.
Join us as we explore some big and larger-than-life questions pertaining to the Earth as a living body — one that gave rise to humanity, one whose living systems we contribute to shaping, and one that will continue reiterating well beyond human timescales.
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| 0:00.0 | I have a quick but important ask. As you're probably aware, Green Dreamer is an independent |
| 0:07.9 | podcast and we don't take on corporate advertisers to fund our work because we don't want those |
| 0:13.7 | considerations to influence our curiosities or our abilities to question whatever it is that we want to question. |
| 0:22.3 | So if you value and believe in our work, this is our call out. |
| 0:26.8 | We need your direct support in order to continue this podcast. |
| 0:30.7 | And you can help us out so, so much through a paid substack subscription to my newsletter at |
| 0:37.3 | camaya.substack.com or through a one-time |
| 0:40.4 | donation at greendreamer.com slash support. It really means a lot to have you here. And we're so |
| 0:47.6 | grateful for whatever form or level of support that you're able to share with us. So, you know, biology, life, microbes, plants, all of it is an incredibly important part of |
| 1:01.0 | the water cycle. |
| 1:02.0 | It's not just a passive recipient. |
| 1:05.0 | It's not just like a straw that is, you know, sucking things up and putting the water back |
| 1:10.0 | into the sky, |
| 1:11.0 | it's playing a much more active role than that. |
| 1:14.3 | And learning that something like 10 years ago, if not earlier, |
| 1:18.9 | really started to change the way I thought about |
| 1:21.2 | the relationship between life and the planet |
| 1:23.8 | and recognizing that life has much more power |
| 1:26.5 | over the planet, the power to shape the weather, the topography, the structure and chemistry of the planet as a whole. |
| 1:39.3 | You're listening to Green Dreamer, and I'm your host, Kamea Shane. |
| 1:46.6 | Today we are honored to welcome Ferris Jaber, a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and Scientific American, |
| 1:53.7 | and the author of the new book, Becoming Earth, How Our Planet Came to Life. |
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