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The Food Chain

Fermented foods: A beginner's guide

The Food Chain

BBC

Arts, Society & Culture, Food

4.7 β€’ 545 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 29 January 2026

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Fermented foods are fashionable – kimchi, kefir, kombucha – they're all having a moment, many thousands of years on from where they were first produced. But how much do you know about how they're made? Do you know your SCOBY from your kefir grain?

In this episode, fermenting novice Ruth Alexander goes on a quest to find out more about this ancient way of preserving food; how to do it yourself, why you might want to, and what it's doing for our guts.

Follow along as she experiments with making her own kefir, and talks to fermentation guru Sandor Katz about how to get started and whether there's anything that can't be fermented.

Scientist Professor Gabriel Vinderola explains what's known about the microbes behind it all and how they affect our health while Kheedim Oh and his mum Myung Oh talk about how they've brought the family recipe for kimchi to a US audience via their business, Mama O's Kimchi. (Kimchi on pizza anyone?)

And with the help of Adam Goldwater from UK based Loving Foods Fermented, Ruth discovers how kombucha is made, and the alien like SCOBY powering the process.

Produced by Lexy O'Connor. The sound engineer was Andrew Mills.

If you would like to get in touch with the show, please email: thefoodchain@bbc.co.uk.

Image: A woman in an apron is holding a jar of brightly coloured fermenting vegetables, with orange carrots and purple cabbage tightly packed in. Credit Getty/Migrogen

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:05.6

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0:12.1

You might. You might. It is called Sightraught with me Nick Grimshaw.

0:15.2

And me, Annie Mack. And we talk about the week in music.

0:18.2

All the news, all the cultural happenings in the UK and beyond.

0:22.2

And great guests.

0:23.3

And it's on BBC Sounds.

0:24.7

Yes, where you can also enjoy lots of playlists, music mixes and live radio.

0:29.9

Everything from my six music breakfast show to Radio 3 Unwind.

0:34.5

But obviously start with our podcast, sidetrack.

0:36.3

Obviously.

0:36.7

Obviously.

0:38.2

So if you like music, listen on BBC Sounds.

0:42.2

It must have started with the taste.

0:45.9

Mmm.

0:47.0

It's just got like such a pleasing level of sourness.

0:51.0

Over centuries, no doubt millennia, people all over the world have watched food

0:55.8

transform from fresh to fermented. The work of microbes. Fermentation is cooking without fire.

1:05.6

And it's become fashionable. Kimchi, Kaffir, kombucha. They're all having a moment, far from where they were first produced.

1:13.7

So this episode of the food chain from the BBC World Service with me, Ruth Alexander,

1:19.1

is a beginner's guide to fermented foods.

1:22.7

Oh, gosh, I wear right up my nose.

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