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Ferguson Revisited: The Worst Night

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

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Daily News, News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2020

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Looking at the images that have come out over the last few weeks: images of police violence and protest, it’s impossible not to think how similar they are to pictures we saw just a few years back in Ferguson, Missouri. Michael Brown's death at the hands of a police officer sparked protests across the country and cemented the Black Lives Matter movement into the American consciousness. Today on the show, we revisit the worst night of clashes between protestors and police in Ferguson.

This episode originally aired in August 2019 and is part of Ferguson Revisited, a series from What Next looking back at Michael Brown’s death, the protests that followed, and their legacy five years later.

Guest: Joel Anderson, writer at Slate, co-host of Hang Up and Listen, and the host of season 3 of Slow Burn.


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0:00.0

Looking at the images that have come out over the last few weeks,

0:08.2

images of police violence and protest, it's impossible not to think how similar they are

0:13.5

to pictures we saw just a few years back in Ferguson, Missouri.

0:18.5

Only this time, Ferguson is everywhere. And now, journalists who cut their

0:24.0

teeth covering the killing of Michael Brown are in positions of authority at national news

0:28.5

organizations. They are helping shape the conversation Americans are having about equal justice

0:34.7

and police brutality. Because of all that, we wanted to listen back to an

0:39.8

interview I did last year with Slate's Joel Anderson. In Ferguson, he found himself in harm's

0:46.3

way, targeted by the police. It's an eerie echo of the images we're seeing right now, journalists being arrested on live television, tear gassed.

0:57.9

I asked Joel to come on the show and tell me what it was like on the ground in Ferguson.

1:01.8

I asked him to tell me about his worst night.

1:05.8

One note before we start, this episode has some pretty rough language in it, including a racial slur.

1:11.5

We've kept that language intact to preserve how people felt in the moment.

1:16.9

I'm going to start out by saying the worst night in Ferguson is a really subjective thing.

1:23.2

But when I asked Joel Anderson about his worst night, he knew exactly what I meant.

1:28.0

You summed it up in this one tweet on your timeline that I cannot read aloud, but maybe you would.

1:35.1

Hmm. Hmm. Oh, is that the one with the slur? Yeah. Joel was a reporter at BuzzFeed back then. He'd just flown in to cover the reaction to Michael Brown's death.

1:47.1

Yeah, so I sent this tweet.

1:48.2

I remember I was in my hotel room watching the press conference.

1:53.0

I'd finally gotten home, and I tweeted out,

1:56.5

pardon me in my language, but I've never felt more like a nigger than I did tonight.

2:02.5

Oof.

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