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Spirits: Mythology, Legends, & Folklore

Feminism, Judaism, and Fairy Tales w/ Veronica Schanoes

Spirits: Mythology, Legends, & Folklore

Multitude

Myths, Folklore, Society & Culture, Alcohol, Legends, Learning, Urbanlegends, Mythology, Comedy, History, Education, Gods, Educational, Drunkhistory

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

We’re joined by author and professor Veronica Schanoes, who leads us through a forest of  the feminism of Alice in Wonderland, taking moralizing out of the fairy tales, and tackling forgiveness. 

Stories Based on Jewish Folklore and Magic, on Electric Literature. 

Content Warning: This episode contains conversations about or mentions of bodily harm, antisemitism, gun violence, murder, arrest/imprisonment, depression, implied pedophilia, emotional manipulation, torture, racism, slavery, child endangerment, kidnapping, dismemberment, and religious persecution. 


Guest

Veronica Schanoes is an American author of fantasy stories and an associate professor in the department of English at Queens College, CUNY. Her novella Burning Girls was nominated for the Nebula Award and the World Fantasy Award and won the Shirley Jackson Award for Best Novella in 2013. She lives in New York City. Burning Girls and Other Stories is her debut collection.


Housekeeping

- Recommendation: This week, Amanda recommends Sometimes I Trip on How Happy We Could Be by Nichole Perkins. 

- Books: Check out our previous book recommendations, guests’ books, and more at spiritspodcast.com/books

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About Us

Spirits was created by Julia Schifini, Amanda McLoughlin and Eric Schneider. We are founding members of Multitude, an independent podcast collective and production studio. Our music is "Danger Storm" by Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com), licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Spirits Podcast, a boosy dive into mythology, legends, and folklore.

0:03.8

Every week, we pour a drink and learn about a new story from around the world.

0:07.0

I'm Amanda. And I'm Julia. In this episode 246, a very exciting and fantastic episode with Dr. Veronica

0:13.1

Seamus. I love talking about all things like psychoanalizing, like stories that we've talked about in the past and new stories that are new to us. So this

0:22.0

was a great conversation to have. It was so fantastic. So exciting to see a Jewish perspective on fairy

0:27.5

tales as well. And Dr. Shane is like one of those professors where every class that she describes

0:33.1

teaching, I'm like, I want to take that class. Can we take that class? I know. I also bought so many

0:38.9

books that she recommended to us during this interview. So I think you guys are really going to

0:43.0

enjoy it. And Julia, do you know what else I really enjoy? Is it our new patrons who I think also

0:47.7

would enjoy these classes that we talk about? It is. Thank you so much to patron Julia, window

0:53.1

elves, Adrian, and Sarah. We so appreciate you

0:56.7

carving out some of your human dollars every month to support a podcast that you really enjoy.

1:00.9

We enjoy you. We do this as our job because of the support of patrons like you. And our supporting

1:05.8

producer-level patrons. Alicia Allison, Brian, Deborah, Hannah, Jack Marie, Jane, Jessica

1:10.7

Stewart, Justin Keegan, Nieselkins, Megan Measelkins, Megan Linger, Megan Debra, Hannah, Jack Marie, Jane, Jessica Stewart, Justin, Keehan,

1:12.1

Nieselkins, Megan Moon, Phil Fresh, Captain Jonathan, Malachi, Cosmos, Sarah, Scott, and Zazi,

1:17.8

and of course, Julia. Those legend-level patrons don't sleep on it. Audra, Clara, Drew, J.

1:22.2

Bay, Bay, Kay, Lada, Lexus Morgan, Morgan H, Mother of Vikings, Necro royalty, and B.M.E. Up Scotty.

1:28.1

I think of our patrons, like a forest where every patron is a tree that has a creepy face carved

1:33.6

into it, but it's very cool and very mysterious. That's what I think of every time we read off those

1:38.5

patron names. Oh, I love that so much. My grandma has like a face outside the tree outside her

1:43.6

window, like of her little like den study area. Like we bought it and my uncle like put it up there. It's not like, you know, just natural. But every time I see it, I'm just like, I'm so glad I have like a grandma who loves all things creepy cool. It just really set me up for a successful life of also enjoying the creepy cool. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, Jamie. Well, Julia, I had to thank you so much for taking care of everything last week while I was on

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