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FEMA and the other 50 percent

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

It seems like every morning, another arm of the federal government is being reformed, eliminated, or downsized. That might wind up including an agency that a lot of Americans rely on when disaster strikes: FEMA. President Trump has called FEMA a “disaster.” His new head of homeland security, Kristi Noem, has signaled it’s time to “get rid of FEMA the way it exists today.” FEMA is a big agency, and understanding its role can be difficult in the abstract. So this week, we’re playing an episode from one of our favorite public radio podcasts: Sea Change.   It’s all about something called the “50% Rule.” Host Carlyle Calhoun travels to two towns to discover how this obscure federal policy designed to stop the cycle of flood damage is leading to opposite destinies. For full credits and transcript, visit outsideinradio.org. SUPPORT Outside/In is made possible with listener support. Click here to become a sustaining member of Outside/In.   Follow Outside/In on Instagram or join our private discussion group on Facebook. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:30.8

Hey, you're listening to Outside In.

0:31.7

I'm Nate Hedgy.

0:35.3

Wild days right now.

0:38.7

I mean, it seems like every morning I open the New York Times app, and some arm of the federal government is on the chopping block.

0:42.5

U.S. Aid, Department of Education,

0:45.5

and another agency that a lot of Americans, conservative, liberal, poor, rich,

0:50.2

have relied on when disaster strikes.

0:52.7

I'll also be signed an executive order to begin the process of fundamentally reforming and overhauling FEMA or maybe getting rid of FEMA.

1:00.3

I think, frankly, FEMA's not good.

1:03.2

FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

1:07.8

Now, you might imagine them as powerful, mysterious, kind of ominous, like they're the

1:12.8

men in black of disaster recovery.

1:15.4

But a lot of their work is actually pretty wonky, and we wanted to share a story from our

1:19.4

pals over at the Public Radio podcast, Sea Change.

1:23.2

This episode, it helped me understand what's at stake when we hear talk about getting rid of FEMA.

1:30.0

For better and for worse.

1:32.6

Enjoy.

1:41.9

Drive south from New Orleans, follow the Mississippi River, and about an hour later, you'll arrive in Pointe-A-Lahatch, Louisiana.

1:50.0

It's a tiny town on a rural, skinny stretch of land, sandwiched between the river and wetlands, just before it all disappears into the Gulf of Mexico.

2:00.3

Pointe of LaHatch is where I meet Virgie Ancalade.

2:03.2

I've been here all my life.

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