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Is Felger and Matt? What? On 985. Unbelievable. The Sports Hub. Where's this from, Jimmy? They have proper credit. I think it's his podcast, right? His podcast. The Michael Lombardi podcast. And the ringer, yeah. Where this comes from. And he's asked about Johnny Mansell in general and Johnny Manzell and the New England Patriots.

Go ahead and run cut one there, Jimmy. To me, the risk has to be low enough to where the reward is great. And if you do your due diligence, you bring them in. We did. When I was in New England, he came in the same time as Jimmy Garapola. They came in the same exact time. They spent the same exact amount of time together. They went over the tape. They went through the same procedures that each of them did. And Mansell was really good on his visit. Now, he's going on to have a lot of problems and a lot of complications afterwards. But I think you have to be able to look at your team and say,

we're giving this guy a second chance. And, you know, once he screws up, he's out of here,

I think somebody's going to give me that this league is too desperate for quarterbacks not to give

this guy a second chance. And if he proves what he's saying is real, you know, like if he said,

hey, in 60 days, we're going to come back, we'll drug test you, do whatever, and he's saying is real. You know, like if he said, hey, in 60 days, we're going to come back.

We'll drug test you, do whatever.

And he's clean. He's done it. Then I think he'll get a second chance. Did you know Johnny Mansell was here for a visit, the draft of 2014? No idea. Not that I remember. Jim Louth is down here as our engineer. Jim Louth knows everything, remembers everything, tracks. Jim, did you know that Johnny Mansell was here at Gillette for a pre-draft visit in 2014?

No idea.

Doesn't that, I go back there and say, boy, they were serious about Brady and decline in 2014 and getting the next guy.

They brought in Johnny Mansell. Forget Jimmy Garoppolo like a second round flyer, which isn't really even a flyer. They brought in Mansell. Right. They were looking at quarterbacks in 2014. Oh, yeah, no question. Look, I remember we had some discussion about it and there was a chance that Manz i'm sorry just i mean i know that like that's

the master of the obvious kind of statement but the fact that they brought in manzell too

doesn't that well it just proves that garropola wasn't just hey you know best on our board right now

or a flyer no we're looking at quarterbacks they were targeting quarterbacks in 14

belichick thought brady was the slide, was coming down.

They had to get the next guy, and now was the time to do it.

Bill was 100% right in terms of, well, just, let me say this, because Brady turned

it around and went the other way.

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