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Somebody's Gotta Win with Tara Palmeri

Feeling the Trump Trial Aftershocks With John Heilemann

Somebody's Gotta Win with Tara Palmeri

The Ringer

News

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2024

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Tara is joined by MSNBC political analyst and new Puck contributor John Heilemann, and they begin the pod by discussing Michael Cohen’s testimony in the Donald Trump hush money trial and the impact the case could possibly have on voters in November. They then assess the state of the Trump and Joe Biden campaigns, share their reactions to the announcement of their upcoming debates, and dissect the current presidential poll numbers. For more of Tara's reporting, please sign up for her newsletter, ‘The Best and the Brightest,’ at puck.news/tarapalmeri and use the discount code TARA20 Host: Tara Palmeri Guest: John Heilemann Producer: Chris Sutton Production Supervision: Conor Nevins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

If you're a fan of the inner workings of Hollywood, then check out my podcast, The Town, on the Ringer Podcast Network.

0:05.5

My name is Matt Bellany. I'm founding partner at Puck and the writer of the What I'm Hearing newsletter.

0:10.0

And with my show, The Town, I bring you the inside conversation about money and power in

0:14.2

Hollywood. Every week we've got three short episodes featuring real Hollywood insiders

0:18.6

to tell you what people in town are actually talking about. We'll cover everything from why your favorite show was

0:23.9

canceled overnight. Which streamer is on the brink of collapse and which

0:27.4

executives on the hot seat. Disney, Netflix, who's up, down, and who will never

0:31.9

eat lunch in this town again.

0:33.0

Follow the town on Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Tara Pal Mary. I'm Puck Senior Political Correspondent, and this is

0:57.1

Somebody's Gotta Win. Well, we are in the final days of the Trump-Hush Money Trial.

1:05.0

This time next week, the prosecution will start closing arguments,

1:09.4

and then defense will give their arguments,

1:12.0

and the jury will deliberate and make a decision.

1:15.2

On Monday the prosecution star witness Michael Cohen faced a particularly brutal cross-examination

1:21.2

when he admitted that he sold $30,000 from the Trump

1:24.3

organization when he was angry that he had a smaller bonus that year. He admitted

1:28.8

that he owed a tech company that manipulates polling $50,000 but he only paid them 20,000 and kept the rest for himself.

1:36.0

He said quote I just felt it was almost like self-help.

1:39.6

He also admitted that he's made about 1.4 million dollars in books and

1:43.9

podcasts based on his rivalry with Donald Trump.

1:47.6

So that was interesting, especially if you believe that this case rests on the

1:51.2

credibility and testimony of Michael Cohen, who's obviously perjured himself before

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