Hi, I'm Jennifer Huddleston, a senior fellow in technology policy here at the Cato Institute.

And I'm Travis Fisher, Director of Energy and Environmental Policy Studies.

So, Travis, I have a really important question for you.

What do you think is the silliest thing you've used AI for?

So I started using this program called Leonardo AI for image generation, and I've had some

fun with that.

I've basically created the images for my blog post at Cato through that.

And there's been some really, like, over-the-top crazy stuff.

One thing was, and I think this might tie into the theme today,

I was looking for an image of, you know, the theme was parasitic electricity consumption.

So I was like, hey, AI, give me an electricity parasite.

And the thing it came up with was actually kind of cool.

It was like, it looked like maybe an insect that was eating electricity. was actually kind of cool. It was like a, it looked like maybe an insect

that was eating electricity. It was kind of cool. But Travis, you're an energy scholar. Shouldn't you

care about the environment? I do. I love the environment. So unfortunately, I would say,

one of the recent conversations we started to hear around AI is this debate over whether or not AI is actually harming the environment.

Is using AI to create this image, even though it was fun and enjoyable and perhaps a little silly, actually leading to more long-term global warming or more long-term environmental impacts.

This has certainly been a conversation in the tech policy space,

and I'm sure you're hearing a lot of conversations in the energy policy space as well around

how are we going to properly fuel AI.

But this isn't really something new either. We've long seen this debate around

new innovations and their impacts beyond just our day-to-day social world and particularly around

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