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Foundation produced called None of the Above. What you're about to hear is a conversation between none of the above host

Mark Hannah and America's highest ranking military officer general Mark Milley. They begin to answer some of the tough

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At some point, people will figure out that the cost of continuing to execute this war through military means is extraordinarily challenging. It doesn't mean it can't be done,

and I applaud the Ukrainian will and the courage and the resilience, but there's also the practical matter of being able to physically kick out every single

Russian out of all of Ukraine. That's really hard to do, militarily.

Welcome to none of the above, a podcast of the Eurasia Group Foundation. My name is Mark Hanna. You're about to hear a conversation about the future of conflict.

How does the war in Ukraine end? How will the United States and China's rivalry play out? And what military technology will shape these future conflicts?

Now, no one can fully predict the answers to these questions, but I recently had the opportunity to sit down with one of the best positioned people to try, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley.

Now, you might think because General Milley is the president's top military advisor and the highest ranking military official in the country that he's all business, but as fellow Massachusetts natives, there were a few other things we had to take care of upfront.

Well, the fact that you're from the Cape Cod area is very impressive and you already have a leg up on every other interview.

Fantastic. Thank you.

We could have this entire interview about Boston Red Sox and Cape Cod.

Can we talk about the Shaki Waters?

Yeah, we can do all that.

Okay.

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