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Scouting for Growth

Federico Spagnoli: Prudential and Embedded Health

Scouting for Growth

Sabine VanderLinden

Business:entrepreneurship, Business, Entrepreneurship, Technology

4.835 Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2023

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

What if insurance stopped waiting for claims — and started actively improving how long, how well, and how confidently people live? In this episode of the Scouting for Growth Podcast, Sabine VanderLinden sits down with Federico Spagnoli, then President and Head of Emerging Markets Ecosystems for Prudential Financial LATAM and now Vice President of International Total Wellness Solutions, to explore how insurance is shifting from protection to prevention — and from products to lifetime platforms. Federico is widely recognised for leading the launch of Prudential Vitality in South America, a breakthrough ecosystem that today serves over 1.5 million people. Through a single mobile app, customers can access health services, preventative tools, and rewards designed to influence behaviour — not just pay claims. His journey into insurance was intentional. After joining Prudential six years ago, Federico completed an executive programme with Oxford University’s Saïd Business School, focusing on disruption and innovation. His core question was simple but uncomfortable: why has insurance changed so little, despite massive shifts in customer behaviour, data, and technology? What he uncovered was a systemic opportunity. Life and health insurers, he argues, have historically focused on mortality — even though people are living longer. The real challenge today is how we age, how we manage chronic conditions, and whether we can afford healthcare and retirement in a world shaped by longevity, climate change, and economic volatility. Prevention, not indemnification, is where real value now sits. At the heart of this conversation is Federico’s belief in integrated wellness — physical, mental, and financial. These dimensions are inseparable. Financial stress fuels anxiety. Anxiety impacts physical health. Poor health undermines long-term financial security. Addressing them in silos no longer works. Technology changes the equation. Through SuperApp platforms, insurers can now engage customers continuously. Using behavioural economics and gamification, they can nudge healthier choices — annual check-ups, movement, nutrition, and financial literacy — while rewarding engagement through points, marketplaces, and dynamic content. The results speak volumes: customers using the Prudential platform deliver Net Promoter Scores twice as high, with higher renewal rates, longer life expectancy, and lower claims ratios. The episode also tackles distribution transformation. Rather than bypassing brokers, Federico explains how platforms can augment the broker channel, strengthening relationships while unlocking new monetisation models across ecosystems. This episode is essential listening for: Insurance leaders rethinking protection in an aging world Health and wellness innovators building preventative platforms Executives exploring ecosystem and SuperApp strategies Brokers and distributors adapting to digital engagement models As Federico makes clear, the future of insurance isn’t about selling more policies. It’s about helping people live longer, healthier, and more financially secure lives — and building business models that grow by doing exactly that.

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0:00.0

The Welcome to Skirting Folk Growth. Today I will be joined by Federico Spanieli, President and Ed of Emerging Markets and Ecore systems for Prudential Financial Lattam.

0:29.7

Paedico is well known for his work launching Vitality in South America and providing health services to over 1.5 million South Americans who today can download an app from their mobile device to get access to a

0:46.6

multitude of health services. During this podcast we will evaluate Federico's vision about enhancing people's physical,

0:57.3

mental and financial wellness.

1:01.7

We will define where is the world of health and insurance going in terms of protection and prevention?

1:09.0

Let's look at distribution and strategic distribution by understanding how do we augment the broker channel.

1:17.4

And I thought it would be great to get some tips for those interested in monetization services.

1:27.7

If you like what you hear please rate, download, subscribe, comment at the bottom of this podcast and so it is time to welcome Federico. So welcome video I'm so pleased to be with you today. So as you know with all my

1:58.4

podcasts I start with a little bit of intuition and really learning about you and what got you into insurance and the path you have selected today within, I would say, health and health care.

2:11.0

Excellent, it's a pleasure to be here. My name is Federico Spagnoli. I'm currently running wellness

2:19.5

ecosystem for Prudential International.

2:23.0

I joined Proential about six years ago,

2:25.0

and at the time I was doing an executive program

2:30.0

outside Oxford University focusing on disruption,

2:36.8

strategy and innovation.

2:39.6

And I'm part of my theme, and actually

2:41.6

was the theme of my paper was really about disruption in the

2:48.7

insurance industry.

2:50.9

You know I started in the insurance industry more than 25 years ago back in Argentina where I'm from.

2:58.0

And since then as you know we haven't seen incremental innovation but not really truly disruption.

3:07.2

And when I started focusing on some of the key drivers affecting our customers, I realized that there were a lot of opportunities

3:18.0

there for us to start thinking very differently the way how we approach the business today. So that is my interest in this topic

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