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Welcome to Talking Fed's one-on-one, deep-dive discussions with national figures about the most fascinating and consequential issues, defining our culture and shaping our lives.

I'm your host, Harry Littman. Welcome to another one-on-one

on talking feds. We find ourselves in the Kennedy era, not JFK, not even RFK, but RFK Jr., who was

Trump's narrowly confirmed and controversial choice to head Health and Human Services Agency,

where his idiosyncratic, I can start there, ideas have been given full play in certain areas.

So I wanted to take the chance to describe what's going on, both the risks and plain anomaly of

some of the things he's doing and what's happening in public health. And we have the best person,

I'd say in the world, to do that in Dr. Kavita Patel. She's a teaching professor of medicine

at Stanford, a board-certified internal

medicine physician. But she also worked. She knows government, having worked in the Obama administration,

as a director of policy for the Office of Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Engagement.

And you see here often on podcasts and as a contributor to NBC News and MSNBC.

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