Before Jack Smith's grand jury, you will recall that Jack Smith subpoenaed in a historic

move, the former vice president to testify about everything he knew about Donald Trump

is participation in the criminal scheme and conspiracy to claim to power all the way through

November, the election before November, December, January, January 6th and the like, including

about Mike Pence's own role, the fake electors scheme that was being promoted by Republicans

and advisors and Donald Trump himself, Sydney Powell, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Flynn and all

of those people. And the role that they were trying to have Mike Pence play to abdicate his

constitutional duties and help overthrow democracy. So Mike Pence was, of course, a critical

witness and has been a critical witness to Jack Smith. Now, basically, there were two pieces

of litigation proceedings that broke out as a result of the subpoena. Donald Trump went to court

to try to quash the subpoena, arguing executive privilege that he was the president. Anything

he told Mike Pence about him wanting to promote a coup and claim to power and stop the peaceful

transfer of power was somehow covered by executive privilege, couldn't be a turning client privilege

because Mike Pence was not his lawyer and is not a lawyer. So the only privilege left for Donald

Trump was executive privilege. That was rejected by a DC circuit court trial judge who said, I don't

think so. There was an appeal that was taken by Donald Trump. That's what this ought to take

is about and what happened there. The second piece of litigation that happened at the same time

is that Mike Pence wanted to limit or stop his testimony. So he and his own name as former vice

president filed a case because it dealt with the grand jury process, which is overseen by the chief

judge, the then chief judge of the DC circuit court, which was at the time. And it's still now

Jeb Bosberg. Jeb Bosberg got the objection of the vice president conducted a hearing, a secret

hearing, but one that we now know about through remedial reporting in which Mike Pence argued that

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