Well, each side was given 20 minutes, which is the norm, and it means it was going to last 40 minutes.

But the Appeals Court hearing today in Washington, D.C. considering a weighty and unprecedented First Amendment

issue lasted two hours and 20 minutes and here's why.

Would your position be any different if it were a year ago?

If the time it was just a year ago, so we were much further removed from a political campaign.

Would your position be the same or different?

Certainly a year ago, we would still be in the midst of a political campaign.

I believe President Trump... What are we midst of a political campaign I believe President Trump

What are we not in a political campaign? I mean to fight the hypothetical but

you're saying that it was... What he was saying there is I don't mean to fight the hypothetical. But Donald

Trump's lawyer did mean to fight the hypothetical. In fact, Donald Trump's lawyer fought every hypothetical

presented to him by the Appeals Court panel of three judges who were

considering Donald Trump's appeal of a partial gag order issued by

federal judge Tanya Chutkin in the case of United States of America versus Donald J. Trump,

in which Donald Trump is charged with federal crimes leading up to a

on January 6th because Donald Trump's lawyer fought the hypotheticals the

panel of judges became what lawyers call a hot bench, meaning the judges were very actively and energetically challenging the lawyers on both sides.

So would your position be any different a year ago?

I think the gag order would still be unconstitutional.

Would your position be any different? I don't I don't see how okay so the fact that we have

a campaign going on does not matter what matters to you and this is right

still political speech I think which gets very high protection no doubt.

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