Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast.

I'm Tamara Keith. I cover the White House.

I'm Odette Youssef. I cover domestic extremism.

And I'm Mara Liason, senior national political correspondent.

And today on the show, President Trump recently got a lot of attention for posting an overtly racist meme.

But researchers who specialize in

extremism say it's much bigger than one errant post. There's a pattern of government

agencies under Trump using white nationalist messaging. Odette, you have been reporting on this,

and I'm hoping that you can just start out by describing some of these messages and images coming from

federal agencies so we can get a sense of what we're talking about here. Sure. Yeah. So I'm going to

point out just a few of the real top line examples that have happened in the last year, but this is

just tip of the iceberg. So in August, the Department of Homeland Security posted an image to a couple of its social media accounts,

showing an image of Uncle Sam under the words, America needs you, join ICE now.

But the caption on that post read, which way American man?

Now, to most people, I don't think that would signal much at all. Right. Like, if I hadn't read your story, that just, that doesn't mean anything to me.

Exactly. Yeah. But, you know, to people who are familiar with the literature, the aesthetics,

the music of the white nationalist movement.

That caption was taken as a callback to a 20th century book that has the title, Which Way

Western Man?

It is an anti-Semitic, racist book that's largely popular within neo-Nazi circles, Tamara. So, you know, there's one example.

Another notable example from DHS again was posted just last month. This was an image with the

caption, We'll Have Our Home Again. And on Instagram, the post also included an excerpt from a song by that title.

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