Hello and welcome to today's independent travel podcast with me Simon Calder and it is an

edition that I am so excited about because I'm with one of my favourite people, Alistair Gunn,

and what we are talking about is air museums and plain graveyards.

So, Alistair is the absolute wizard when it comes to air museums.

I know a bit about plain graveyards.

But before we get into all that, Alistair, first of all, welcome.

Secondly, if you're interested in all these

aircraft museums, is that because there's a particular plane that you like or love?

Thank you very much, Simon. I'm just delighted to be on your podcast today. As you can tell,

by my dulcet tones. I'm from New Zealand and have spent a fair bit of time travelling in different parts of the world,

having indeed just spent 13 years living in the United Kingdom, now we're immigrating back to New Zealand.

So in terms of aircraft, I always remember as a child in New Zealand, the great Fokker friendship F-27 that was flown by National Airways Corporation, which ultimately became Air New Zealand.

And you have really fond memories of that. They've got a really distinctive Rolls-Royce Dart engine and very high-pitched

sound, but I still listen to YouTube recordings and stuff of the Fokker Friendship.

That's marvellous. So presumably you will be able to tell me where I can see one of these

ancient creatures.

Absolutely, and indeed in the UK, there's one in Norfolk at the city of Norwich Aviation Museum,

which is actually out near Norwich Airport.

There's a full Air UK one there.

And indeed, Colin, my husband and myself, had a little tour through there.

You'll find with a lot of these aviation museums, if you do a little bit of planning in advance,

and if you've got a particular interest in a particular type of aircraft,

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