February 8, 2026 - Gregory Treverton | Aziz Rana
Background Briefing with Ian Masters
Ian Masters
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🗓️ 8 February 2026
⏱️ 64 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Background Briefing, available 24-7 at Background Briefing.org, I'm Ian Masters, and today we'll examine a number of stories and issues in the news. |
| 0:26.6 | We'll begin with more indications of major dysfunction and possible treason emerging from Trump's use and abuse of the intelligence community by the unqualified toadies he has put in charge, |
| 0:32.6 | with reports emerging that the whistleblower complaint Tulsi Gabbard sat on for eight months came from the NSA, |
| 0:40.3 | which intercepted a call between a foreign intelligence service and someone close to Trump. |
| 0:45.3 | Normally such explosive information would be disseminated and go straight to the National Security Advisor, |
| 0:51.3 | but Gabbard took it to Susie Wiles so that it would go only to |
| 0:56.3 | Trump and be buried. We'll discuss this and concerns from Senators Wyden and Warner on the |
| 1:02.9 | Senate Intelligence Committee that something has happened at the CIA and needs investigating, |
| 1:08.0 | but again is being sat on. Joining us at Gregory Treveton, a senior advisor with the Transnational Threats Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, |
| 1:17.6 | and a professor of the practice of international relations at the University of Southern California. |
| 1:22.6 | He has served in government for the first Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Hand handling Europe for the National Security Council, and was chairman of the National Intelligence |
| 1:32.0 | Council from 2014 to 2017. |
| 1:36.4 | His books include dividing divided states, beyond the Great Divide, Relevance and Uncertainty |
| 1:41.8 | in National Intelligence, and science for policy. |
| 1:46.1 | Then we'll look into Trump's rupture of the rules-based world order in which alliances are |
| 1:51.1 | valued only insofar as they deliver immediate tangible benefits. The Gaza Board of Peace |
| 1:57.2 | Plan mirrors Trump's approach to NATO trade policy and negotiations with Ukraine and Iran. |
| 2:03.6 | High-stakes bargaining conducted through threats or extortion. |
| 2:07.6 | What matters is not the infrastructure of peace and stability, let alone institutional legitimacy, |
| 2:13.6 | but the optics of a deal struck by the world's strongest power complete with the promise of lucrative contracts. |
| 2:21.3 | Joining us is Aziz Rana, University Professor of Law and Government at Boston College, |
| 2:26.3 | where his research and teaching centered on American constitutional law and political development, |
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