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New Energy. You're in the paracast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.

And now here's Gene Steinberg.

You're in the Paracast with Gene Steinberg.

Our co-hosts is Chris O'Brien.

And there was a comment on iTunes reviewing the Paracast recently saying,

you know what, we're so skeptical that I can't get any guests except for my close friends.

And I think, who are my close friends?

Well, let's see.

Well, for example, Stan Friedman's one of my close friends.

Jerome Clark is a friend, not a close friend, but somebody I've known for many years.

Jim Mosley, Alan Greenfield, Tim Beckley. Gee, there's a lot of people I know who come on the show,

so I guess if I stay with my close friends, I'm doing pretty well. And today I've got another friend,

and at one time, we knew each other quite well, but we haven't talked in over 40 years.

And you wonder, we have actually spent prior to this interview about six or seven minutes on the phone getting reacquainted.

And now that we're reacquainted, I'll acquaint him with you because he's someone, maybe you haven't heard about.

But he has a lot of knowledge and has done extensive research

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