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On the Media

February 6, 2009

On the Media

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🗓️ 5 May 2011

⏱️ 51 minutes

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I'm WNYKYC in New York. This is NPR's On the Media. I'm Bob Garfield. And I'm Brooke Gladstone. If any doubts

0:24.4

remained that the Bush administration authorized spying on American citizens, former National

0:30.0

Security Agency analyst Russell Tice may have put them to rest late last month on MSNBC.

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The National Security Agency had access to all Americans' communications.

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It didn't matter whether you were in Kansas, you know, in the middle of the country,

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and you never made foreign communications at all.

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They monitored all communications.

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The agency had access to all Americans' communications,

0:52.9

but Tice said they targeted individual journalists

0:56.2

and news organizations. Many had suspected as much. In 2006, a group of journalists tried to sue the

1:03.3

NSA to find out if they were being spied on. The suit was dismissed. One reporter who was sure

1:09.8

he was being monitored was Lawrence Wright,

1:12.6

the Pulitzer Prize-winning author of The Looming Tower, Al-Qaeda, and the Road to 9-11.

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His first clue came from one of his sources in the intelligence community, who told him he'd read

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a summary of a phone call Wright had made to the Middle East. Later, two federal agents showed up at his

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door with questions about another phone number he'd called. And they wanted to know, first of all,

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who was it? I looked it up on my Palm Pilot, and it belonged to a solicitor in London,

1:40.5

who represents some of the jihadis that I had been interviewing for my book.

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And then they began asking if the person on our end of the call, my end, was named Caroline.

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And that's my daughter's name.

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And they ask, you know, is her name Caroline Brown?

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And I said, no, she's, you know, a student at Brown.

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