February 19, 2023 — Fearless Roundtable with Curt Collins and Tim Swartz

The Paracast — The Gold Standard of Paranormal Radio

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🗓️ 19 February 2023

⏱️ 118 minutes

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Summary

We present a very special fearless cohost roundtable, featuring Gene, Curt Collins and Tim Swartz. On this episode, we’ll cover the UFO field from the early days to the current Pentagon UAP program, with references to those curious balloons shot down by the U.S. government. After a career in retail management Curt began writing about UFOs, with a special interest in re-investigating the paradoxical 1980 Texas Cash-Landrum case. He is the author behind Blue Blurry Lines , a popular website focused on the UFO mystery, as well as its legends and hoaxes. He also runs The Saucers That Time Forgot with Claude Falkstrom, focused on unearthing “tales that UFO history has overlooked, or would rather forget.” Tim is an Indiana native and Emmy-Award winning television producer and videographer. He is also the author of a number of popular paranormal books, and is the writer and editor of the online newsletter Conspiracy Journal; a free, weekly e-mail newsletter, considered essential reading by paranormal researchers worldwide.

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0:00.0	You're in the Paracast.
0:18.0	You're in the Paracast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.
0:27.8	And now, here's Gene Steinberg.
0:32.1	So before we start the show, we do a little setup to get things ready.
0:36.6	And one of them is we're using an app called Audio Hijack to capture the audio and mix it from Skype to my miczer.
0:45.3	And it has a feature where it learns the noise by sampling it for three seconds.
0:52.3	And I was thinking as it was learning the noise,
0:55.0	gee, maybe it will silence me.
0:58.0	But I'm still here.
1:00.0	We had to make a last minute change on this show.
1:03.0	This happens sometimes where we book a guest.
1:06.0	And something happens.
1:07.0	Sometimes they chicken out.
1:09.0	I think there was a guest some sometime back, and I'll leave
1:12.4	it up to Tim Swartz to mention the name. They woke up one day and realized that the show is two
1:20.0	hours plus ads, and that was too much for them. So they bailed. I'm not going to say names.
1:29.2	Maybe someday we'll have them back on, but I won't embarrass them publicly.
1:34.9	We do put people through a good work out here.
1:38.1	We had planned to have Tanya Derenberger, the daughter of Woodrow Derenberger, who was a flying saucer contactee of the 50s and 60s.
1:49.6	And normally we don't care too much about the early contactees or their relatives.
1:55.0	But in this case, John Keel took the guy seriously, right, Tim?
2:00.6	Yeah, I think to a certain extent.
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