This is Free Thought Radio on Air America with your host, Dan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor.

Imagine there's no heaven.

It's easy if you try.

No hell below us.

Above us only sky imagine all the people living for today hello happy heath today I'm Annie Laurie Gaylor, wishing you a bright and secular New Year.

Happy 2009.

I'm Dan Barker, your friendly neighborhood, atheist of the airwaves.

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between state and church.

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an organization of atheists and agnostics working to keep state and church separate.

And we hope someday you will join us.

Today you'll join us.

And we'll be speaking with the indomitable Mike Nudow during the second half of Free Thought Radio.

You know how Mark Twain quits. Everybody complains about the weather, but nobody ever does anything about it.

Well, in the Freethought community, we all complain about religion creeping into the presidential

inauguration, but it takes Mike Nudow to do something about it. He has launched a new lawsuit last week with the Freedom for

Religion Foundation and others, and we'll be talking with him about the new federal lawsuit.

And Annie Laurie and I and the Freedom from Religion Foundation and some of our members

around the country are among the many co-plaintiffs in that lawsuit. And Mike has really done

his research. He shows how the inclusion of chaplains or ministers during the inauguration is a very recent violation and even how relatively recent the insertion of the words in God we trust into the presidential oath were.

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