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Four details. He is a former number two overall pick and currently doing some great things to help people with addiction and mental health disorders

Ryan Leaf transcend recovery community.com. Thank you for coming over here. We saw your name

offered up as a potential guest and we said we got to talk to this guy. He's been doing some cool

things. So welcome to the show, man. Yeah, I really appreciate it. This is going to get

pretty hectic, like Thursday and Friday. This is a small, I mean, we're in a food court, for God

saying. I know. We're in a food. This is Middle America. We are in Middle America. This is exactly.

Did you ever think you'd be between like a Cinebond and a mini golf course? I thought I'd be working at a Cinebond probably yeah the way things were going in my life I just shouldn't say that people

working at Cinebun are amazing people that's a shake shack here too I mean come on it's great um no it's

it's this is just a really a rewarding opportunity to be able to do something like this the fact that

a platform is offered up to me to be of help and be a service

like this, this is really, really great. What's it like, I mean, just your story, I think so many

people saw sort of the start of the bad days. Do you get tired of talking about it? Do you embrace

that? Because there are guys who have gone down your path, and I think the majority of those guys, we just don't hear from them again.

I mean, something bad might happen to them, but they flame out and they're gone.

What's it like to go through what you went through publicly?

Go through the middle of things, which was very tough and perhaps not as public, but certainly out there,

and now to come out on a side where on a daily basis you help so many people.

Well, I mean, and I don't mean to minimize it at all, but what I went through, it was just, yeah,

it was very public, but it was nothing that somebody who lives a life goes, this is life.

You know, people there's ups and downs.

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