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In Our Time

Feathered Dinosaurs (Archive Episode)

In Our Time

BBC

History

4.69.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

After 27 years, Melvyn Bragg has decided to step down from the In Our Time presenter’s chair. With over a thousand episodes to choose from, he has selected just six that capture the huge range and depth of the subjects he and his experts have tackled. In this sixth of his choices, we hear Melvyn Bragg and his guests in 2017 discussing new discoveries about dinosaurs. Their topic is the development of theories about dinosaur feathers, following discoveries of fossils which show evidence of those feathers. All dinosaurs were originally thought to be related to lizards (the word 'dinosaur' was created from the Greek for 'terrible lizard') but that now appears false. In the last century, discoveries of fossils with feathers established that at least some dinosaurs were feathered and that some of those survived the great extinctions and evolved into the birds we see today. There are still many outstanding areas for study, such as what sorts of feathers they were, where on the body they were found, what their purpose was and which dinosaurs had them. With Mike Benton Professor of Vertebrate Palaeontology at the University of Bristol Steve Brusatte Reader and Chancellor's Fellow in Vertebrate Palaeontology at the University of Edinburgh and Maria McNamara Senior Lecturer in Geology at University College, Cork Producer: Simon Tillotson Spanning history, religion, culture, science and philosophy, In Our Time from BBC Radio 4 is essential listening for the intellectually curious. In each episode, host Melvyn Bragg and expert guests explore the characters, events and discoveries that have shaped our world

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts.

0:07.0

My Christmas Mix is pure 90s festive nostalgia.

0:11.1

You know, the Christmas songs you listen to on repeat.

0:14.0

Ho!

0:14.3

Ho! Ho! No, no, no.

0:17.5

I'm all about the big hitting Christmas anthems.

0:20.4

Come on, guys. What about those tunes that really slay?

0:23.7

It's Christmas kitchen disco season, surely.

0:26.4

Give me hip-hip-christmas bangers every day.

0:28.6

Those Christmas tracks that are straight out of Lapland.

0:30.9

Get all kinds of Christmassy.

0:32.6

Just search Christmas music on BBC Sounds.

0:35.9

And now to mark the end of his 27 memorable years presenting in our time,

0:41.7

we have Melvin Bragg to introduce the final edition in our series of his most cherished episodes.

0:49.1

Emily Dickinson wrote,

0:50.6

Hope is a thing with feathers.

0:53.1

We've discussed Dickinson on in our time and hope

0:55.8

and writers with quill pens in their hands, and the flight of fletched arrows and birds, of course,

1:01.0

and more. Yet one of my most cherished episodes is on something that growing up I had no idea

1:06.6

had feathers. It's just the kind of topic I learned about here first and it stayed with me.

1:11.6

And that's why I plucked feathered dinosaurs from our archive of almost 1100 episodes.

1:16.6

The scientific detective work here is astonishing.

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