Hi everyone, I'm Joanna.

And I'm Jenny.

And this is hyphenated, the podcast about living in the hyphen.

I wanted to make it sound like a little like haunted and scary.

You remind me of that chick with the booger dangling from her nose in, um.

Blair Witch Project.

Blair Witch Project. I'm so scary right now. I'm, I'm so scared. Wasn't that good? That's like,

that's like really good like ASMR shakiness. Fear ASMR. I'll make you relax by making you feel like I am on the verge of death.

So we were talking about are kind of insane and I like to call ridiculous, even though it's very

relatable, but fear of performing live to a live audience.

And, you know, I find that a lot of people are surprised to hear I have a fear of performing,

considering I am a performer.

And I, you were surprised to hear I was afraid of performing too.

And I was, I was also shocked that you were afraid of performing live as well.

I feel like there's a part of my brain that is and there's a part that isn't because it took me

a while to realize that I do have stage fright. It took me coming out to LA, self-sabotaging, a lot of

my improv classes, not showing up, even though I was totally cool with my classmates, the moment I would get up there, it might as well have been a beheading.

For some reason, there's like a part of my brain that immediately switches on and goes, danger, danger, danger.

And I was like, because I'm like, dude, i've been acting on stage since i was five i've

been performing by myself in theater groups even piano recitals band all types of performance art

and it took me over 30 years to realize that i have stage right. Yeah, I used to think everyone

would devolve into a nervous puddle of diarrhea and shaking and sweating. Like I was like,

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