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Who else is a chronic people pleaser?

I know that I am, and the Lord is refining me on that.

He is working that out of me because people pleasing, it's not all that it's cracked up to be.

We're going to talk about that today with Ginger.

Let's get to it.

Hey. today with Ginger. Let's get to it. Hello, hello, hello, ladies and gents, and welcome to this week's episode of the

Bot and Beloved podcast. As always, it's a girl, Kirby Kelly. And not only do I have a guest

joining me, I have a guest rejoining me. She has been on the podcast before. She has written

another book. She is a fan fave. I feel like just everywhere. She's incredible. She's so awesome.

But I got Ginger Dugger Volo. Is it Volo? Volo? Yes, you said it properly. Okay. I was like,

I remember last time I was like, I need to get it right.

But yeah, thanks for coming back. I'm so excited to have you here and to be talking about your new book, People, Pleaser. Thank you so much for having me back. This is so fun.

Totally. How was it like writing, because this is your second book, correct? I've actually written quite a few, but this is one of the second, like, bigger ones that I was really excited about, for sure.

I'm excited for you.

I got to read it, obviously.

I have it here in my hands on I read it the other day.

And as someone who is also a chronic people pleaser, who is in counseling currently,

just like unlearning those things, being able to read a book on it, I mean, I was just telling

you this, like there, I feel like there are no books on people pleasing and unlearning that

and untethering yourself from those tendencies and actually being

able to find freedom in Christ and no longer live under that burden. And so I'm just thankful that

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