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Fear and Paranoia in American Policing

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Society & Culture, Business, News

3.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2021

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

What makes a police officer shoot when a suspect’s hands are up? To understand this, it helps to examine police training, and the predominant lesson that many young officers receive: Any encounter could be your last. 

Guest: Michael Sierra-Arévalo, assistant professor at the University of Texas at Austin.

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0:00.0

Like a lot of people, Michael, Sierra, or Revelo doesn't watch those police videos anymore.

0:11.8

You know the ones. The body cam footage and the cell phone pictures.

0:16.0

Last week, there was one showing a police officer killing 13-year-old Adam Toledo in Chicago, even though he had his hands up.

0:24.4

And then there was one showing a cop in Minneapolis, confusing her gun for her taser, before shooting 20-year-old Dante Wright during a traffic stop.

0:32.7

I stopped watching last summer, so I, to date, have not watched the entirety of George Floyd's murder.

0:44.2

Why?

0:46.2

I spent a lot of time watching videos like that, actually, throughout most of my time in graduate school.

0:51.4

I was working on gang violence reduction at the time.

0:53.7

So I thought that it was important for me to watch this video

0:57.6

as an exercise in quote unquote understanding the facts.

1:03.3

And the more videos I watched,

1:07.4

the clear and clear it became to me

1:09.3

that the empirical observable reality of the video

1:13.5

was actually not that important for what was happening in the world outside.

1:19.6

Michael teaches at UT Austin now.

1:22.0

He studies policing, which is part of why it struck me that even he has stopped pressing play

1:26.8

when these videos pop up.

1:28.9

He's spent hours observing the way cops speak to each other about the work they do.

1:34.6

Over the last week, he's watched on social media as officers have processed these latest incidents.

1:41.4

He says, a lot of cops, look at this footage, and they see civilians who aren't

1:46.2

complying. They say stuff like, if citizens had just done what the police told them to do,

1:53.7

then they would still be alive. Even with a 13-year-old with his hands in there? Well, again,

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