Welcome back to the Pod Force One podcast. I'm Miranda Devine. Today we are with FCC Commissioner

Brendan Carr. Brendan Carr, thanks very much for joining Podforce One.

Yeah, so good to be with you. I've been a big fan of the show, so it's great to be on with you.

Thank you. And you've been doing amazing work since you've been at the FCC and I think Donald Trump is

pleased.

He keeps on tweeting about what a great job you're doing.

And you've been called the media pit bull by the Hollywood reporter and the Guardian is up in

arms about your, well, he's calling, they're calling it Trump's war against

the media and he's winning largely in large part because of some of the stuff that you're

doing. So what are you doing? And what's your kind of overall strategy?

Well, if you step back, you know, trust in legacy mainstream media is in an absolute decline.

I mean, right now, more people trust gas station sushi than legacy media.

And it's not just, you know, a talk about it's actually true.

You know, trust in legacy media is down to 9% right now.

And there's a lot of reasons for that.

If you step back, there's probably three or four

core reasons why trust in media is at such a low. One is the news media is just completely out of

touch with where the American people are. I'll go back to the recent Super Bowl in California,

and the Washington Post had an editor that wrote a piece that said, the most important person in this Super Bowl is Colin Kaepernick,

someone who hasn't been on a football field in about a dozen years or so.

You had the USA men's hockey team with a thrilling Olympic victory,

and you had reporters, I think even at ABC,

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