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F-girl? F-hi. I'm sorry, we really had to. We just had to. We had to make the joke. But we were both huge fans of HBO Max's wildly entertaining dating show, FY Island.

So we are dressed so psyched about this bonus interview episode with one of the outstanding leads joining us today to give us the real unvarnished inside scoop is none other than the Af girl queen herself to Maris.

Tamara's thank you so much for joining us. Oh my God, thank you for having me. I'm so excited. We are excited. So excited for anyone who isn't subscribed to our newsletter rich text, you can find our two episodes breaking down this season in greater detail over there.

So I would encourage you to go subscribe, listen to those and then this will make a really nice companion piece. Yeah, speaking of possibly. But we're so excited to dive a little deeper because we just had nothing but questions by the end of this wild ride of a season.

So let's dive in to Maris. Tell us a little bit about yourself. Where are you from? What do you do and how did you end up on a show like Af boy island?

Yes, all good questions. I'm usually from New York City. I've been living in Miami for probably 11 years and always back and forth because I sometimes don't like the winter like the fog and not the winter.

I am, Miami is like the best place to be. Here Miami, I actually am a part of this amazing company that's going to create the metaphors what the metaphors will look like in the future. Wow. Super cool.

That's a spiral.

Yeah, so we're going to create a lot of interesting stuff. We'll have an activation during art, the one Miami which we're extremely excited about. And yeah, I'm happy to be like kind of one of like a big figure in that world because it's such a man dominant world.

And I can't wait to like mark my territory and let these guys know that it's not only for a man and you can be an ask your own sexy and cute and nerdy and all that stuff needs me.

Yeah, that's why I'm in contained mold today too. I have to say though, man or woman when we invite people on who are on dating shows that is like never an answer that we get about what they're up to that is something I've never heard before. So that's amazing.

And it is the wild last out there. So now's the time to be like, sticking your getting in there to part of the metaphors.

Yeah, we need some like good people also to be like building that like not like all to like Mark Zuckerberg to decide everything. I think we need some you know, a little diversity there.

Yes, I'm fresh eyes.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You've done enough, Mark. Okay.

But how did you get cast on FYI lens?

Yeah, so casting director, reshalt to me via social media and probably like a week later, we had probably about three zoom calls with an expand of a week.

And I did it here back until four months later.

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