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Surviving the Survivor: #BestGuests in True Crime

FBI’s DEADLIEST TRAITOR: Hunt for the Double Agent in Worst Intelligence Disaster in U.S. History

Surviving the Survivor: #BestGuests in True Crime

Big Pond Podcasts

News, True Crime, Society & Culture

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2026

⏱️ 67 minutes

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0:00.0

He wasn't just hunting a spy.

0:02.9

He was hunting a ghost hiding within the FBI.

0:07.4

You're about to hear one of the most incredible spy stories of all time from the FBI agent who hunted down an American traitor.

0:17.8

Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor, where we bring you the

0:22.5

best guests in all of true crime. Here's your host, Emmy award-winning journalist Joel Walton.

0:29.8

What's up, St.S. Nation? Welcome to Survive and the Survivor. This is the global phenomenon,

0:34.8

bringing you the very best guests in all of true crime and buckle up.

0:40.0

Because tonight, this is the story of a pair of FBI agents, really a team of FBI agents,

0:45.8

but one of the more central figures who spent decades, the spy, that is, working for Russia.

0:53.8

A man trusted to protect America's most sensitive Cs. the spy, that is, working for Russia.

0:58.7

A man trusted to protect America's most sensitive secrets who instead sold them for the almighty dollar.

1:04.8

And the operation to catch them so sensitive

1:08.3

it had to be run off the books

1:10.2

because the mole might have been watching from inside

1:13.7

the bureau this is the story behind a traitor in the FBI the hunt for a Russian mole by

1:22.3

Wayne Barnes it was an unprecedented covert mission involving fake identities, behavioral profiling, and one high-risk play to expose the most damaging spy in FBI history, Robert Hansen.

1:40.2

Joining us now, the man who didn't just study this case, he actually lived it, a 29-year FBI

1:47.4

veteran in counterintelligence who helped hunt down the mole from inside the bureau. And here he is,

1:54.5

author of a traitor in the FBI, Wayne Barnes. Wayne, first of all, thank you for your service to our nation.

2:04.1

What prompted you?

2:05.8

I think you've been retired for a decent amount of time.

2:09.4

You look fantastic.

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