All right, Jim Clementi, we will continue to follow this case until hopefully.

So, you know, very, very interesting.

But then again, when he just says right there, she was alive up into the point, basically a front step.

And so if she died or was helpless at that point, that sort of gives more credence to the more than one kidnapper theory

that we have. And again, Jim Clementi, when I read his profile of Rex Eumann that was 12 years,

was written 12 years before Rex Eumann was arrested, it was almost exactly years before Rex Newman was arrested. It was almost exactly

who Rex Newman was. It was brilliant. So I have tremendous respect for him. And as I said,

Jim Clemente has been on this show probably four or five times. And we love the guy. And I,

but even though I'm going to, I'm going to disagree with them.

You know, I was a homicide sergeant. Manhattan North, I went to hundreds and hundreds of

homicide shootings, robberies, sex crimes, all kinds of crime scenes. And we got some experience

here too. Maybe we're not trained in behavioral analysis, BAU, the behavioral analysis unit with the FBI,

but you come up with some skills in making hypotheses on these cases through working numerous cases,

Phil. Yeah, listen, let's face it. Profiling is advisory and not determinative.

Cases are solved by evidence and not theory. Now, with that said, I agree with a lot of what

Jim Clementi stated there specifically about the blood. I couldn't agree more. I think he's right

on track with that. And I think he's on to something when he says that he believes it could

be something directed at Savannah Guthrie.

And only because we're so far into the investigation, we're 87 days in, I'm going to back

off of that theory because that's one of the theories that would jump right out at me right

from the jump.

And I would think that FBI and the local police, the investigators on the case,

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