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Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary

FBI Behavioral Expert Breaks Down Brian Walshe's Police Interviews | The Art of Lying

Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary

True Crime Today

News, News Commentary, True Crime

3.3 • 908 Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Brian Walshe sat across from detectives and told them everything was fine. Happy marriage. No affair. No idea where his wife went. He said he'd "never do anything to hurt" Ana. What investigators didn't tell him right away was that they'd already pulled his search history—queries like "how long before a body starts to smell" and "can you be charged with murder without a body."

In this interview, retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke—former chief of the Bureau's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program—breaks down the recorded police interviews that are now central evidence in the Brian Walshe murder trial. For 21 years, Dreeke's job was catching people in lies that threatened national security. He knows what deception looks like under pressure, and he's walking us through exactly what Walshe's words, delivery, and behavior reveal.

We dig into the specific tells: Why did Walshe volunteer that his wife's texts sometimes popped up on his phone? What does it mean when someone fabricates alibi details that surveillance footage directly contradicts? How does a person maintain composure across multiple interviews while their laptop contains a roadmap to dismemberment?

Dreeke explains the difference between genuine denial and performance, why guilty people often give too much information, and what baseline behavioral shifts—like a suddenly rushed demeanor at daycare drop-off—actually signal. This isn't speculation. It's pattern recognition from someone who spent two decades in rooms with people whose lies had consequences.

The Walshe trial is happening right now. The jury is hearing these recordings. And once you understand what to listen for, you'll never hear them the same way.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Burstey, Stacey Cole, and Todd Michaels.

0:10.0

In the days after Anna Walsh vanished, her husband sat down with investigators multiple times.

0:17.1

He told him the marriage was happy.

0:19.3

He said he had no idea she was having an affair.

0:22.3

He looked detectives in the eye and said he would never do anything to hurt his wife.

0:32.0

But police didn't tell him, at least not at first, was that they'd already found his laptop,

0:38.3

the search history.

0:39.3

Queries like, how long before a body starts to smell?

0:42.3

Hecksaw, best tool to dismember and can you be charged with murder without a body?

0:47.3

The recordings of those interviews are now evidence, and the jury is hearing a man calmly deny any wrongdoing while the digital

0:55.7

breadcrumbs tell a very different story. I want to break down those interviews with you today,

1:01.7

what the words reveal, what the delivery reveals, and what you'll be listening for

1:07.1

if you were the one sitting across from Brian Walsh to help us do that.

1:13.3

Robin Drake, retired FBI special agent, former chief of the counterintelligence behavioral

1:17.5

analysis program, author of many books, his latest one, Unbreakable Alliances, available

1:21.8

wherever books are sold.

1:23.4

And you should put that in every stocking of every person in your house, including your pets.

1:28.3

And a new book, right? Can we talk about the new book?

1:31.1

Yeah, the refreshed one, yeah. So I've got a, I got the refreshed one coming out, which is it's not all about me.

1:37.5

It's being re-released, updated and everything in March. But then we're working on the shorter true crime one, which will help

1:44.3

everyone. That'll hopefully get announced at the beginning of the year as we're working on

1:48.5

that. Yeah.

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