FBI Agent Sent to the CIA to Find Spies | Bill Evanina | Ep. 361

The Team House

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History, Documentary, Society & Culture, Government

4.7 • 929 Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2025

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Today, we talk to Bill Evanina, about his distinguished career in U.S. law enforcement and intelligence. He discusses his journey from an FBI agent to leadership roles in counterintelligence at the FBI, CIA, and as the head of the National Counterintelligence and Security Center (NCSC). Evanina shares detailed accounts of high-profile cases, cultural differences between agencies, and insights into the evolving landscape of espionage, particularly concerning China and Russia, and the politicization of intelligence.
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00:00 - Start
02:58 - Joined FBI as Agent
05:06 - Transferred to Violent Crime Squad
09:47 - Joined FBI SWAT Team (Sniper)
11:05 - Promoted to JTTF & SWAT Supervisor
26:44 - Acting ASAC in New Jersey
30:32 - FBI HQ (Russian Counter Intel)
31:34 - ASAC Counter Intel & Counterterrorism (Washington Field)
32:10 - Chief of CIA Counter Espionage
1:00:04 - Head of NCSC
1:17:55 - Founded The Evanina Group

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0:00.0	Special Operations.
0:05.2	Covert Ops.
0:07.9	Espionage.
0:10.0	The Team House.
0:11.8	With your host, Jack Murphy and David Park.
0:27.4	Hey, everyone. This is episode 361 of the Team House. I'm Jack here with Dave. And our guest on tonight's show is William Ivanina. He served as a FBI agent starting off his career working
0:33.9	organized crime cases, robberies, was on the SWAT team.
0:38.7	9-11 happens, got involved in all types of investigations.
0:42.8	And then he went and served on the joint FBI CIA counter-espionage task force going after
0:49.4	people who are spying on the United States.
0:52.2	All kinds of different stuff there with Snowden and
0:56.0	Jerry Lee. We'll get into that in a bit. And then he went on to head up the Office of National
1:01.6	Counterintelligence, which transitioned into the National Counterintelligence Security Center.
1:07.2	And today he is running his own company, the Evenina Group.
1:11.1	So we're going to get into all of this.
1:13.6	But Bill, thank you for joining us.
1:15.2	Really appreciate you coming on the show.
1:18.2	And let's kick it off by, you know, tell us a little bit about, you know, your upbringing and how that took you eventually towards governmental service.
1:28.1	Well, first of all, very humble to be here, man.
1:30.8	It's exciting, very familiar with your podcast,
1:33.1	and watch a lot of them.
1:34.3	I'm excited to be here and add a little value to what you do already
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