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Karin here from the Being Boss team and in this series we're bringing back some of our favorite

conversations from the episode archives. Listen in as Emily and Kathleen discuss what it means to

not only be the boss of your business but the CEO and if you want to hear more of this conversation

check out episode 188 going from boss to CEO. We ran a survey and we found out that a lot of you all

are not making enough money to pay the bills doing what you love and so it is time to be the CEO

to make more money to make better decisions and to really own it to own what it is that you want

and to be able to break it down step by step and get there along the way. I definitely think of

someone who is not just the head of the business because that could be really any solo printer

just doing the work and I even think about myself whenever I first quit my day job and started working

for myself as a freelance graphic designer. I kind of thought like oh I own this stuff but I wasn't

this CEO because I wasn't really making a lot of decisions that were moving the business forward.

I was just making decisions that would get me the next client that would pay the next

pay with the next bill but not really like thinking in a strategic level of how I wanted to grow.

I wasn't bringing my values and intentions into how I wanted to grow. I wasn't the kind of CEO

that I am today who really has taken on a leadership role beyond just what I can do.

For sure and I think you just almost touched on something that I think holds very true for who

a CEO is of a business and is the person who holds the big vision and who quite probably

creates the big vision and then holds it and makes sure that it happens and I think that's

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