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🗓️ 8 September 2025
⏱️ 73 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome. I'm Kevin Miller. This is a podcast for your personal evolution. In this episode, |
| 0:07.0 | fawning, our appeasing and protecting others is hurting us all. So we all have a primary pattern of |
| 0:16.3 | dealing with relational conflict. There are a scant few in my experience who do it with just great health |
| 0:23.6 | and peace overall. The rest of us tend to fall into what psychologists have labeled fight, |
| 0:28.7 | flight, or freeze tendencies. I'm sure you've heard of this. I'm not a fighter and I viewed myself |
| 0:33.8 | as generally freezing in the moment of conflict, masked by thinking I was just being |
| 0:38.3 | cool and calm, and waiting for it just to end so that I could then take flight and remove |
| 0:42.9 | myself forever more possible. And I thought I was valiant for my lack of fighting, righteous and |
| 0:48.9 | unshakable, and I thought I was protecting everyone, myself included. I did whatever it took |
| 0:54.0 | to choose your word here, |
| 0:55.8 | okay, whatever relates to you, appease, placate, tolerate, put up with. What I realize now is I was |
| 1:02.7 | just being dishonest with myself and everyone. And while I thought I was being strong, I now view it as |
| 1:08.9 | being incredibly weak. Again, dishonest. And what was really happening |
| 1:14.6 | is I grew bitter and was slowly building these walls, brick by brick, with my appeasing. The new term for |
| 1:22.4 | what I was actually doing and what I really relate to is fawning. And this is the podcast focused today. So I sat down with |
| 1:30.2 | Dr. Ingrid Clayton. She's a licensed clinical psychologist with a master's in transpersonal |
| 1:35.6 | psychology and a PhD in clinical psychology. She's had a thriving private practice for more than 16 |
| 1:42.0 | years. She's a regular contributor to psychology |
| 1:44.7 | today where her blog, Emotional Sobriety, great term, has had more than a million views. She has |
| 1:51.5 | now come out with, it's actually the first ever commercial book on this new concept of fawning. And it's |
| 1:57.7 | titled, Fawning, why the need to please makes us lose ourselves and how to find our way back. So Fawning, and it's titled Fawning, why the need to please makes us lose ourselves and how to find |
| 2:02.6 | our way back. So, fawning, she says, is a hallmark of codependency and often occurs when we can't |
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