Hello again, everybody. It's John Bewin, keeping busy here, working away, making recordings for season eight, alongside our amazing little team.

And in the meantime, coming to you with the next in our Between Seasons mini series that I'm calling a few of my favorite things.

These are episodes from limited series that I have really liked and learned from, and that I think you might want to hear, too, if you

haven't already found them. Next up is an episode of The Outlaw Ocean. The series by Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times reporter

Ian Urbina takes listeners to what you could call the most lawless place on earth, the high seas.

This episode from season one explores why the world's oceans are running low on fish.

It uncovers brutal exploitation of sea life and of people,

in this case, African people.

As you listen, you might find yourself thinking of those seen on radio episodes from West Africa

and reporter Ugochi Anyaka Uluigbo in seasons five and seven.

Oh, and if you ever eat farmed fish, you may never think about that choice in the same way again.

From CBC Podcasts and the LA Times, this is Season 1, Episode 5 of The Outlaw Ocean, Waves of Extraction.

I got a call from Peter Hammerstead, one of the captains on the sea shepherd ships

from the chase of the thunder, and he mentioned that they were doing a patrol off the coast of West

Africa, specifically in the waters of this tiny nation called the Gambia, and he wanted to know

if I might want to come and see what they're up to.

At the beginning, we're calling the government of the Gambia to listen to our people as they march right now.

The land belongs to the people, not to the companies.

Thank you very much.

Oh, power to the people.

West Africa in particular is an interesting place just because it's one of the few places in the world that still has pretty robust stocks, fish stocks.

And so it is a magnet for foreign commercial industrial-scale ships.

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