Hey everyone. Don't let the title of this episode scare you off.

Chad Daniels and I don't end up talking about that many poems.

However, if you did come here just for the poems,

Chad Daniels and I talked about some very important poems. However, if you did come here just for the poems, Chad Daniels and I talked about some

very important poems. And this is The Book Pile. A podcast about the best of books and the worst

of books. If this is your first time to the podcast, welcome and maybe suggest checking out our

back catalog of 180 episodes with just as many books and counting, including two previous

episodes with today's guest, Chad Daniels, who also joined me and Dave when we discussed

The Old Man in the Sea, and then later, Good Night Moon. And I'm very sorry, Dave was supposed to

make it for this episode, not a joke, but he had a professional emergency come up very last minute, and he wasn't able to join us.

And you'll see how Chad and I treat Dave's Phantom Presence with great respect.

All right. Let's get right into it.

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Last week's mini episode includes a cut portion of today's conversation with Chad Daniels.

Go to patreon.com slash the bookpile. And speaking of Chad Daniels, and speaking of Chad Daniels,

he is my favorite comedian. I will always consider myself extremely lucky to know him.

And lucky that he's willing to do our podcast. He has recorded several hour specials.

He's got over a billion streams on Pandora. And he recently shot his first Netflix special, which we'll

discuss on this episode. And speaking of that, as usual, with comics, talking to comics, we do go

off on a few tangents here. But even if you just came for the poetry, I think you'll still

enjoy listening to Chad. He's one of the greatest storytellers of

our time. So now, without further ado, this is me and Chad Daniels. Dave couldn't be here. He really,

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