Favored or Forsaken: Women in Authority

Faith Adjacent

The Popcast Media Group

Education, Society & Culture

4.8 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2021

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

In light of the recent decision of Saddleback Church to shatter that SBC glass ceiling and ordain three women (hold your gasps until the end please), we explore the topic of Women in Authority to determine whether it is favored or forsaken. Join Resident Bible Scholar Erin Moon along with hosts Knox and Jamie as they strap on cultural goggles to unpack some controversial scripture, explore the recent history of women in the Church, and provide a gentle rebuke to some salty blog boiz in our most egalitarian episode yet.

MENTIONS

What’s going on at Saddleback? Read about Saddleback Church ordaining women here
Quotes and Crests: A Tweet from Al Mohler
Tell me more about Lottie Moon
Read: Tish Harrison Warren on Being Ordained
What was that about LBJ? Read more here.
Jackie Hill Perry Instagram Post
Russel Moore: Instagram | Twitter | Website
Sarah Bessey Quote
Bible Passage Referenced: 1 Timothy 2
Listen: Season 13: Paul
Help me with a different lens: Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible | The New Testament in Its World By NT Wright | Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes by E. Randolph Richards and Brandon O’Brien
Throwback: Derek Webb

FAVORED OF THE MONTH

Knox - Book - The Idolatry of God by Peter Rollins
Jamie - Book - The Making of Biblical Womanhood by Beth Allison Barr
Erin - Twitter - Tish Warren’s Twitter Thread | Groceries - Trader Joe’s Chocolate Croissants

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Favorite or Persaican. I'm your host and resident model scholar, Erin
0:14.5	Mune. Because the Bottle Bench episodes are mostly looking backwards, Favorite or Persaican
0:19.0	is an episode devoted to looking to the present and future as we consider current events
0:23.0	through the religious lens to decide if they are Favorite or Persaican. Joining me on this
0:27.8	safe face journey is Jamie Golden and Max McCoy. Guys, how are you today? Are you personally
0:34.1	Favorite or Persaican? You know, personally, feel okay. There is a gas shortage and there's
0:40.6	rockets in Jerusalem. So I'm a little worried. Just like slight worry. But that, that Chinese
0:46.6	rocket came down and didn't hit anybody. It's true. 53 tons. It's like glass half full.
0:51.2	Exactly. Good spin zone. I know. What are we talking about today, Max? Look, I'm really
0:56.8	excited for this topic because we so rarely have the benefit of timing working in our
1:02.6	favor. Usually we'll publish or record the day before something monumental happens. But
1:08.9	this, what we're going to talk about here today, which is the idea of ordained women, women
1:13.2	and authorities and churches. It's really the conversation has accelerated around it because
1:17.6	recently, a South of Back Church led by a purpose driven pastor, the two first name,
1:22.1	the church, he ordained three women, Liz Puffer, Cynthia Petty, Katie Edwards. And this
1:27.1	is notable because it was done in defiance of the SPC's official position, which forbids
1:31.6	ordaining women. And I looked into like, like, obviously, like, where does that stem
1:35.1	from? Like, when did they decide that? My head was like, they decided, you know, between
1:39.8	like shootouts and like 17 hundred or something. But it's actually 1984. I read fundamentalists
1:46.0	were consolidating control of the SPC and they adapted. I'm going to quote Baptist news
1:50.7	dot com. They adapted resolution saying that a puzzle Paul and writing first and with
1:54.7	the excludes women from pastoral leadership to preserve a submission. God requires because
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