Hello and welcome to Favourite or Forsaken. I'm your host and resident Babel's

scholar Aaron Moon. Because Babeldenge episodes are mostly looking backwards, Favourite or

Forsaken is an episode devoting it to looking to the present and future as we consider current

events to the religious lens to decide if they are Favourite or Forsaken. Joining me on this

faith-based journey is Jamie Golden and Knox McCoy. Guys, how are you today? Are you feeling

Favourite or Forsaken? I just got my negative COVID test here and something a little real

favorite. You're back after a 14 day quarantine. Knox just got a negative test after possibly

exposing me to COVID. Yep. So I feel really good. We're all very favorite. Very favorite

today. Thank you, Jesus. So we're going to start this conversation. We're going to talk

a little bit about celebrity Christians. Next, you want to talk about why we want to

talk about celebrity Christians. Yeah, you know, we had sometimes look at the podcast

and biz. It's just sometimes it gives. Sometimes it takes away. Last Favourite or Forsaken,

I think we recorded it. And then after we recorded the news about Carl Lentz came out. So

we didn't get a good chance or opportunity to talk about that. So we're not going to talk

about him specifically here. We're not going to talk about his abs. We're not going

to talk about those abs or like that V or how he like showcases it in a big way. So we

thought there's a good adjacent conversation to have regarding Carl Lentz. And we thought

that was about like celebrity Christians, Christian celebrities that whole deal, that

whole corner of the internet. That's right. So let's define first what celebrity Christian

is. Because there is a difference between a celebrity Christian and a Christian celebrity.

Yes. I like this distinction. Right. It's what is the adjective? What is the noun? Right.

And then the noun is what made them famous. Where they are celebrity first or a Christian

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