Welcome to the Pod Force One podcast. I'm Miranda Devine and today we're joined by FDA

Commissioner Dr Marty McCarrie. Dr. Marty McCarrie, thank you so much for joining Podforce

One. Great to see Miranda and welcome to the FDA. Thank you. It's wonderful to be at your beautiful

Maryland campus with all the fall leaves. I wanted to start off

with Anthony Fauci, who I think, you know, we were just joking that he was the patron saint of

Wuhan. But really, he was given a pardon by Joe Biden in his final days before he left the presidency.

Why do you think that was?

Well, I don't think Tony Fauci is going to be sending me a Christmas card this year.

We had massive disagreements through the entire course of the last four years.

And look, I think he gave a lot of bad advice.

I think he was involved, regardless of what

you think of his positions, insisting schools shut down for nearly two years, shutting kids out

of school, pushing COVID vaccine mandates, pushing COVID vaccine boosters in young healthy individuals,

not talking about the risks

of myocarditis or any other evidence of vaccine injury, censoring Americans, pushing cloth

masks, giving people a false sense of security, all the areas where we disagreed. Put that aside.

We can have a disagreement. We should have an open discourse on those

things. One thing that's extremely obvious that very few people realize, and certainly hardly

anyone in the medical establishment where I come from, realized, is that he was involved in a massive

cover-up of the origins of COVID,

massive cover-up, whether or not he was involved

in the experiments or funding the experiments

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