Hey deserving listeners, today's episode is about mental health stigma and particularly around men and fathers.

I was on the Dad Challenge podcast again recently and we talked about that. That's what they wanted to talk about with me and so let's get to that

interview right now. All right everybody here we are again a dad challenge podcast talking to

Dr. Kirk Honda from Seattle psychology in Seattle's got a great podcast that can help out a lot.

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Dr. Kirk, thanks for being with us.

Thanks for having me.

As Christmas is approaching and I wonder or two in your practice and what you do if you see this a lot is we're really talking about mental health, anxiety, and these things that affect men and I think a lot of times they affect them silently.

And so we want to uncover it today, we want to erase the stigma or try to de-stigmatize it a little

bit, and then to kind of dig into a professional side of it, like for what you deal with professionally, obviously.

Okay, sounds good.

All right, so first off, because obviously we are a parenting podcast, one of the most important

things I think we need to talk about and uncover first is how does mental health

specifically like let's talk about anxiety panic and depression how does it affect

marriage as you see it from your professional perspective?

Well, for depression, it can be very difficult to deal with.

We tend to look at depression like, oh, you're just kind of down if you've lived

with depression yourself or lived with someone who's chronically depressed it is a

major issue in one's life. It's hard to get up in the morning, everything has a

dark cloud around it. You don't enjoy things that you used to enjoy and like even going to the movies or watching football or having sex.

People's sex drive will usually completely dry up.

Wow.

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