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Live Free with Josh Howerton

Father Mike's Bible Claim FALLS APART | Live Free with Josh Howerton

Live Free with Josh Howerton

Lakepointe Church

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.82.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Who decided which books are in your Bible? Pastor Paul Cunningham responds to Father Mike Schmitz's case for the Apocrypha, walking through the historical record, early church fathers, and the canon that Jesus himself recognized and quoted. This isn't an attack, it's a careful, evidence-based conversation about one of the most consequential questions in all of Christianity: which books are truly the Word of God? From Jerome's own doubts about the books he translated, to what the Dead Sea Scrolls actually reveal, to the stunning detail hidden in Matthew 23, this episode gives you the biblical and historical confidence to know why the 66 books of the Protestant Bible are simply THE Bible. In this episode, you'll learn: What the Apocrypha is and why Catholics and Protestants have different Bibles Why the earliest Christians (centuries before Martin Luther) debated the Apocrypha What Jesus actually quoted as Scripture and why it matters enormously Why even Jerome, the man who translated the Catholic Bible, rejected the Apocrypha as authoritative How to have gracious, informed conversations with Catholic friends about the canon Stand firm. Think biblically. Live free. 🧢 Want a Live Free hat of your own? Visit LiveFree.shop 📲 Looking to grow deeper in your faith? Check out the Lakepointe App to access our Discipleship Guide, daily Bible reading plan, and more. Text APP to 20411 to download

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0:00.0

I don't want to presume to say, thus saith the Lord, if the Lord has not in fact,

0:03.6

thus saideth. If I get it wrong, I'm going to end up believing things and living in ways

0:08.6

that God doesn't want me to. So the stakes are actually pretty high. And I believe that's what

0:12.3

happens with the Apocrypha. Hey, Lee Free Nation, this is an introduction to a bonus episode.

0:20.2

By the way, if you find these bonus episodes helpful, this is a bit of a test drive.

0:24.8

So if you find them helpful, if you would head over to YouTube and comment on this, very

0:30.0

frankly, that lets us know that this is helpful and it makes us go, oh, we should keep doing this.

0:34.8

Here's what's going to happen.

0:35.7

I'm introducing Chat G Paul C, who is going to be responding to Father Mike, whose podcast we can never beat yet.

0:43.9

On the difference between the Protestant and the Catholic Bible, this is not to inflame

0:48.3

tension or division or hatred between Protestants and Catholics. This is simply a question that we receive so

0:56.4

frequently about something that is very foundational to our faith. Why does the Catholic

1:01.8

Bible have seven more books in it than the Protestant Bible? And what you're about to hear

1:07.1

is Father Mike explaining a lot of the Catholic reasons for that, and Chad

1:12.3

Gipal C gently and systematically deconstructing those things. Without further ado, chat

1:17.8

Gipal C. What's up, the Free Nation? Well, hey, piggybacking on what Pastor Josh just said,

1:22.7

like for my Catholic friends out there, this is not in any way an attack. It's a response to a question we get all the

1:29.4

time and to the kinds of videos we're about to watch from Father Mike together. And like on that note,

1:34.3

Father Mike, you seem like a great guy and a good hang. Like, I would love to hang with you

1:39.3

sometime if you ever have some spare time on your hands. But even if you're a good hang, like if you

1:44.1

say some things

1:44.8

that can lead people in some bad directions or that are people asking us about, well, like,

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