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All right, jens. So I always forget that, I know you're not nervous because we've done this a lot.

But I forget that when I have a guest in, this is like a new for them.

Yeah. Because this couldn't be chiller for me, you know? Nice. Which is probably what you want.

Yeah. I mean, there's like a sense in which being a little bit nervous kind of hones your skills or sharpens the mind. There's way more space behind him than me. I did the table. I'll move it.

Oh, I see what you mean.

Yeah.

But then why is that still the case?

Do you like, this is how casual the episodes are?

This is a great way to start the episode, because that way you hook people.

Look at how bald.

Look at how bald that man is.

Do you want me to move it over?

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