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As you know, the unborn are important to God.

And it turns out God is important to me.

So the unborn are important to me and to many of you.

And someone who's been a really heroic figure, a voice for unborn human beings, is Father Frank Pavone. He's the head of priests for life, and I have wanted to get him on

recently to talk about this issue, and specifically to talk about what is troubling to many people,

not just Catholics, but Pope Francis's kind of mixed messages and waffling on the issue of speaking out strongly on behalf of the unborn. So Father Frank Pavone,

welcome back to this program. Hey, Eric, it's great to be with you. Thanks so much. It was great to

see you in person not too long ago. And thank you for all your work and advocacy as well.

Well, this is important stuff. My gosh, I feel, you know, honored that I get to do anything.

I don't think I get to do much, but whatever I get to do, I praise the Lord for it.

You have been really at the forefront of this issue for many years. How many years has this been, you know, something that you've been involved in so directly?

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