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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

Fatally Flawed

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2024

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

With Jonah still MIA, Chris Stirewalt returns as Remnant guest host extraordinaire, joined by Benn Steil, director of international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, to discuss Steil’s latest book and determine if the bizarreHenry Wallace was a noble man of the soil, an unsophisticated victim, or vindictive villain. To determine how Wallace changed the course of history, Stirewalt and Steil discuss the Soviet Union’s duping of an Einsteinian genius, the cult of Nicholas Roerich, and why you should never slaughter 6 million pigs. Show Notes: — Chris' American Enterprise Institute page — Benn Steil’s The World that Wasn’t — Benn Steil’s The Marshall Plan — Oliver Stone’s The Untold History of the United States — Benn Steil and Elisabeth Harding’s “The Farm Legacy of Henry Wallace: Regressive Subsidies” The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including Jonah’s G-File newsletter, weekly livestreams, and other members-only content—click here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Oh, that is a a Ladies and gentlemen, uh, can I please have your attention.

0:17.0

Can I please have your attention?

0:19.0

Can you digger? Well, hello remnant America. This is the remnant brought to you by the

0:33.5

Dispatch and Dispatch media and I am not Jonah Goldberg. I am

0:36.3

Chris Steyrwald. I am in his stead. I am but a humble apparition, a

0:41.8

cipher in the place of the great man.

0:44.7

But I have something great to talk about, I think.

0:50.0

So picture this, a consequential vice presidential nomination choice, wrestling within the innards of one of the great parties.

1:00.8

And the choice may be influenced by one of the individuals having perhaps too soft, too cozy a view of Moscow and perhaps too much of a fondness for Russia.

1:17.0

No, not J.D. Vance and Donald Trump, no, no, no.

1:23.9

This is the story of a fulcrum point, a turning point

1:27.7

in American political history.

1:29.8

And I am very happy to share with you this wonderful book, The World That Wasn't, which is about

1:39.2

FDR's second Vice President, former Agriculture Secretary, and the Commerce Secretary, and a fascinating

1:49.2

American figure, I want you all to meet Ben Steele.

1:55.0

He is a senior fellow and the director of international economics at the Council of Foreign Relations.

2:03.0

He is the author of two impressively researched,

2:08.6

impressively dense works of economic history.

2:12.0

One about the Marshall Plan, which is really good, and won the Battle of

2:15.8

Bretton Woods, John Maynard Keynes, Harry Dexter White, and the making of a new world order for the Wanc community. This is serious and good

2:24.9

stuff. But the story of Henry Wallace came over into my world, came over into the world, into the world of politics,

2:35.0

and Mr Steele, welcome and thanks for being here.

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